TROS 14: Pay Attention to Poe (with Marianne)
In minutes 66-70 of The Rise of Skywalker, Kylo asks Rey to join him, General Pryde shoots Hux, and we wind up on Kef Bir. Marianne joins me today to discuss thematic reappropriation, Poe vs. Heroics themes, a demure Palpatine moment, complicated nostalgia, and more!
Timestamps:
0:00 - Hello there!
5:37 - Psalm of the Sith, a misshapen clone of the Emperor's theme.
15:00 - Poe's theme vs. Heroics theme.
17:24 - Reappropriation of the Main Theme, morphing symbolism.
22:24 - Poe vs. Heroics (continued).
28:01 - Rey's theme with an octave leap.
35:42 - Demure Palpatine theme.
46:42 - Two independently snaking musical lines, chord progression moving through circle of fifths.
56:42 - Twisted Bass Line from Attack of the Clones.
1:03:39 - "Shing" of the blade kicking off the next bit of music.
1:04:14 - Palpatine's Scheming motif from Return of the Jedi.
1:09:02 - Drawing out the connection between the blade and the Death Star wreckage, climaxing with the Imperial March.
1:14:24 - Would it make more sense for this to be the Heroics theme rather than Poe's theme?
1:21:01 - Great viola texture.
1:26:38 - Sequels are heavy on original trilogy nostalgia. Complicated feelings.
1:33:00 - Appreciation for The Phantom Menace soundtrack.
1:38:16 - TROS is Marianne's favorite sequel trilogy soundtrack.
1:47:40 - SWMM Questionnaire
Things to Check Out:
Complete Catalogue of the Musical Themes of Star Wars (by Frank Lehman): https://franklehman.com/starwars/
Thematic Transformation and the Limits of Leitmotivic Analysis (Frank Lehman) - https://youtu.be/4ZBCNK0PYrk?si=Sjh80kM-i7EBx0ST
Why the Music in The Rise of Skywalker Felt Misleading (Sideways) - https://youtu.be/L_8-dWSLDWI?si=qNUFXOc_izzZptlY
The Chord That SAVED Star Wars (Charles Cornell) - https://youtu.be/X3fvljQYhGE?si=UkBCJnVWiGMxlVzF
TROS 1: Intro to the Music of The Rise of Skywalker - https://youtu.be/otAOKW5zR70?si=ltgtAWcN73MDdDt6
TROS 3: Independent Jedi Study (with Riley Silverman) - https://youtu.be/IzD34Azbrfw?si=3aMNUkjN48zF72pG
Musical Themes:
59a. Psalm of the Sith (A Section)
1a. Main Theme (A Section)
45a. Rey A (Theme A-Phrase)
17. Emperor
41a. Kylo Ren A (Aggressive)
65) Twisted Bass Line
36) Palpatine's Scheming
10a. Imperial March (Theme)
49. Poe
47a. March of the Resistance (A Section)
Where are we in the soundtrack?:
OST 10. "Join Me"
FYC 10. "Join Me"
OST 4. "The Old Death Star"
FYC 11. "The Old Death Star"
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STAR WARS MUSIC MINUTE QUESTIONNAIRE:
1. In exactly 3 words, what does Star Wars sound like?
Epic. Adventure. Emotion.
2. What's something related to Star Wars music or sound that you want to learn more about?
The recording sessions sessions. How do the composers prepare to write? Who picks the orchestra? When do the musicians get the music? Etc.
3. What's a score or soundtrack you're fond of besides anything Star Wars?
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (Howard Shore), How to Train Your Dragon (John Powell), and anything by Hans Zimmer.
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Guest: Marianne
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