TROS 13: Oddly Romantic (with Darth Choco and Element7)

Are all people on the Dark side repressed theater kids? What's that weird "wee!" sound during the Kylo/Rey duel? Do the strings represent Rey and brass represent Kylo in this scene? We discuss all of this and more in today's episode about minutes 61-65 of The Rise of Skywalker, featuring Darth Choco and Element7!

Timestamps:

  • 0:00 - Hello there!

  • 5:06 - Lore drop in the Force connect scene.

  • 13:08 - What is this mysterious "weee!" sound?

  • 19:37 - Oddly romantic music during Rey's traumatic childhood flashback (same music we hear before Ben and Rey kiss!)

  • 26:34 - Beef with Ben's final line in the movie.

  • 30:22 - "Weee!" speculation, part 2.

  • 36:08 - Oboe teasing the Imperial March?

  • 42:34 - Resonance pockets, anechoic chambers.

  • 47:55 - John Williams string flourishes.

  • 52:24 - Do the strings represent Rey and brass represent Kylo in this scene? Or is it the reverse?

  • 1:05:42 - Breaking down Hux's (hammy) "I'm the spy" scene.

  • 1:18:28 - Brief Main Theme when Poe looks at the Falcon.

  • 1:25:47 - Tempo and rhythm of Kylo's footsteps.

  • 1:28:24 - Comparing the creepy strings here (when Kylo is telling Rey about her lineage) to the creepy strings in ESB when the Emperor is telling Vader about Luke's lineage.

  • 1:33:41 - How does Kylo know about the Dyad in the Force? Wanting more from Kylo's perspective in general.

  • 1:41:50 - A very stately Anthem of Evil moment. Dystopian Sith royalty.

  • 1:49:42 - Final thoughts about these minutes/the film.

  • 1:56:30 - On ranking Star Wars films.

  • 2:04:17 - SWMM Questionnaire

Things to Check Out:

Musical Themes:

  • 42. Kylo Ren B (Hesitant)

  • 10a. Imperial March (Theme)

  • 17. Emperor

  • 43a. Kylo Ren C (Menacing)/First Order Bass Line

  • 45a. Rey A (Theme A-Phrase)

  • 1a. Main Theme (A Section)

  • 41a. Kylo Ren A (Aggressive)

  • 59a. Psalm of the Sith (A Section)

Where are we in the soundtrack?:

  • FYC 9. "Hard to Get Rid Of"

  • OST 10. "Join Me"

  • FYC 10. "Join Me"

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STAR WARS MUSIC MINUTE QUESTIONNAIRE:

1. In exactly 3 words, what does Star Wars sound like?

  • Darth Choco: Classical. Timeless. Storytelling. (Previously: Hope. Redemption. Spirituality.)

  • Element7: A major lift (Previously: Beyond the horizon)

2. What's something related to Star Wars music or sound that you want to learn more about?

  • Darth Choco: The dance between emotion and utility when it comes to creating soundtracks. (Previously: The creation/engineering of new sounds.)

  • Element7: Foley work--what goes into finding the right sound for something as futuristic as Star Wars. (Previously: Lightsaber sounds)

3. What's a score or soundtrack you're fond of besides anything Star Wars?

  • Darth Choco: Pirates of the Caribbean (composed by Klaus Badelt and Hans Zimmer) and 28 Days Later (composed by John Murphy). (Previously: Pirates of the Caribbean)

  • Element7: : Good Will Hunting (composed by Danny Elfman) and The Last Samurai (composed by Hans Zimmer). (Previously: The Last Samurai)

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Guests: Darth Choco and Element7

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